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Post Posted: 2018-02-14 09:24:56  
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Given the back lash from his decision, Trump won't even have the fingers to do it and neither will his staff. Their asses will more than likely be fired or resign



 
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Ya'll are lucky it wasn't me in the white house.....
Had it been me, FOOD STAMPS WOULD BE DAMN NEAR OBSOLETE.....
Trust me.....You heaux will not be drinking milk and cheese....Cheese is not even good for you anyway so you really have no business eating gluten lactose cheese RICH OR POOR......

The only food assistance you all would be getting would be 70% discount on Vegetables and milk....
If you're hungry, eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus....
not bacon....
not bread....
not yogurt...
not cookies....
not Capri Sun....

Trump is much nicer than me.....had it been me, you will get your ebt cash and vegetable/milk discount and that will be all.....You don't get foodstamps for apple juice....If you want to taste the juice of an Apple, then chew a real mudafucking round ass apple....or you get the raw version, take that bitch home, and make your own apple juice......If you're too poor to buy your own apple juice, then the government will give your the RAW version....You get the free raw apples...then you make your juice....the government won't pay for you to drink the SQUEEZED VERSION......Nah.....you get the real apple complete with fiber and nutrients.....not Ocean Spray Apple Juice....Not Tropicana....If You want Tropicana, you better Tropicana your ass to finding a job or tropicana some overtime hours at your existing job.....

Trump is much better me.....matter of fact, all you bitches having babies ya'll can feed will have your tubes TIED and CLIPPED....no point in having more kids if you can't feed the 4 heathen ass children you already have....WE WILL CLIP AND FRY THAT UTERUS BY LAW...
 
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What is it about a conservative Supreme Court that concerns you?
 
Post Posted: 2018-02-14 10:47:31  
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Is this the return of "Government cheese" ??

Ugh...
 
Post Posted: 2018-02-14 11:09:37  
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Michael Hiltzik
By MICHAEL HILTZIK
FEB 13, 2018 | 9:45 AM

Trump's plan to replace food stamps with food boxes is his meanest idea yet
Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue, seen here testifying on Capitol Hill, is confused about how his food-box idea will save money on food stamps while imposing $2.5 billion in new costs on states. (Susan Walsh / Associated Press)

For some reason, conservatives have always harbored a special hostility for the food stamp program.

House Republicans voted in 2013 to strip $40 billion from the program over 10 years, which would have thrown more than 3 million people off its rolls annually. They groused incessantly over a sharp increase in enrollment and spending from 2007 through 2012 (perhaps forgetting that a little thing known as the Great Recession occurred in that time span). They constantly try to legislate how recipients spend their benefits, fantasizing that they're blowing their monthly check (average: $125.79 per person, or $4.20 a day) on lobsters and truffles.

Now comes President Trump, with the meanest and dumbest approach to food stamps in recent memory. Trump's budget proposal, released on Monday, calls for replacing half of the monthly cash benefit for most recipients with a Department of Agriculture food box containing "shelf-stable milk, ready-to-eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish."

This new proposal ... would require operational capacity and infrastructure that neither USDA nor states now have.



The budget document calls this a "cost-effective approach." In fact, it's nothing of the kind. It's likely to raise costs, rather than reduce them. But it's being used to cloak the administration's intention to cut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP — to use the formal name of the food stamp program — by one-third, or $213.5 billion, over 10 years. (About 60% of the savings would come from the boxes, the White House asserts, the rest from narrowing eligibility for food stamps and placing a time limit on benefits.) The budget claims the food boxes will "improve the nutritional value of the benefit provided," an assertion for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

The budget also labels the food-box idea a "bold new approach." The truth is, it's a tired old approach to government assistance programs that we previously have identified with the "undeserving poor" theme. The underlying notion is that people receiving government aid are layabouts and scammers with nary a concern in their bones except how to rip off honest working Americans.

As it happens, the promoters of this notion often are politicians who are digging into the public purse with both hands. Our favorite hypocrite in this vein is Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-Richvale), who cast his vote for that 2013 cut in SNAP while enjoying the fruits of $5.1 million in government crop subsidies collected from 1995 through 2012 by his family farm. He said then that he couldn't understand why "we can't retract just a little bit of the spending [on food stamps] over something that's grown exponentially in the last three or four years to try to get this reform in place."

Watch a conservative blame government waste on the little guy

Watch a conservative blame government waste on the little guy
MAY 12, 2016 | 7:10 AM
Harry Hopkins, who established the New Deal relief structure under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, understood the impulse to demean the poor, because he had spent years in social work watching the process unfold, to his disgust. The mindset of relief workers in that era, Hopkins observed, was that "the applicant was in some way morally deficient [and] must be made to feel his pauperism. … Every help which was given him was to be given in a way to intensify his shame."

One recurrent approach was to dictate how recipients spent their benefits. Hopkins abominated the system. "It is a matter of opinion," he said, "whether more damage is done to the human spirit by a lack of vitamins or complete surrender of choice."

Trump aides have strained every sinew to make the food-box idea seem innovative and efficient. It hasn't been pretty. White House budget director Mick Mulvaney called the proposed change "a Blue Apron-type program where you actually receive the food instead of receive the cash."

Bad comparison. Blue Apron is a tech start-up that delivers ready-to-cook gourmet meal boxes to your front door. But it's hardly a raging success, much less a model for government to emulate: The company has never turned an annual profit and has been losing customers by the cartload. Its stock has lost about two-thirds of its value since its $10 initial public offering last June, which was a disappointment at the time.

Efficiency? The budget says states would have "substantial flexibility in designing the food box delivery system through existing infrastructure, partnerships, or commercial/retail delivery services." But Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue acknowledged in a fact sheet issued with the budget that distributing the "USDA Harvest Boxes" would cost states about $2.5 billion annually in new administrative costs. That's probably an understatement.

Kansas to break new ground in demeaning the poor?
TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE FOR NEEDY FAMILIES
Kansas to break new ground in demeaning the poor?
APR 07, 2015 | 2:27 PM
"This new proposal," said Stacy Dean of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, "would require operational capacity and infrastructure that neither USDA nor states now have." If recipients have to travel to a central distribution point, that's an additional cost imposed on them.

Food assistance experts noted that nothing in the budget document explains how the food boxes would be assembled to ensure that they meet the needs of client families. The blanket statement that they would improve the nutritional value of the food stamp benefit implicitly assumes that families aren't shopping wisely. Moreover, milk, peanuts, and wheat, all of which are prominent components of the boxes, are among the most common allergy triggers, especially in children. Did anyone in the administration put any thought into what makes up the "Harvest Box"? Or did they just wing it?

USDA rules already prohibit using food stamps for beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco, food to be eaten in the store or precooked hot items. The agency traditionally has counseled against imposing further restrictions on food stamp purchases. USDA data generally show that the diets of food stamp recipients are essentially identical to everyone else's. "Food stamp recipients are no more likely than higher income consumers to choose foods with little nutritional value," the USDA reported a decade ago. "Thus the basis for singling out low-income food stamp recipients and restricting their food choices is not clear."

That judgment was issued back when the USDA was a responsible federal agency, not a tool to impoverish needy Americans. Political experts are saying that the Trump budget is just a fantasy document, dead on arrival on Capitol Hill. But Americans ignore the underlying themes at their peril.

The mystery is where the food-box idea even came from, because it's cartoonishly mean-spirited, complicated and costly to administer, and utterly unnecessary. One imagines people such as Mulvaney and Perdue stalking the halls of the White House and the USDA in a stupor, their brains filled with incoherent ideas about how to make the lives of Americans worse.


It;s Time to Blame the poor man After we threw caution to the wind and got the deficit up in the shits and we need to build a walll that will be torned down 10-20 years from now this is a dog whistle item Trump does not know how to tie his shoe laces together.
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Ya'll are lucky it wasn't me in the white house.....
Had it been me, FOOD STAMPS WOULD BE DAMN NEAR OBSOLETE.....
Trust me.....You heaux will not be drinking milk and cheese....Cheese is not even good for you anyway so you really have no business eating gluten lactose cheese RICH OR POOR......

The only food assistance you all would be getting would be 70% discount on Vegetables and milk....
If you're hungry, eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus....
not bacon....
not bread....
not yogurt...
not cookies....
not Capri Sun....

Trump is much nicer than me.....had it been me, you will get your ebt cash and vegetable/milk discount and that will be all.....You don't get foodstamps for apple juice....If you want to taste the juice of an Apple, then chew a real mudafucking round ass apple....or buy that raw version, take that bitch home, and make your own apple juice......If you're too poor to buy your own apple juice, then the government will give your the RAW version....You get the free raw apples...then you make your juice....the government won't pay for to drink the SQUEEZED VERSION......Nah.....you get the real apple complete with fiber and nutrients.....not Ocean Spray Apple Juice....Not Tropicana....If You want Tropicana, you better Tropicana your ass to finding a job or tropicana some overtime hours at your existing job.....

Trump is much better me.....matter of fact, all you bitches having babies ya'll can feed will have your tubes TIED and CLIPPED....no point in having more kids if you can't feed the 4 heathen ass children you already have....WE WILL CLIP AND FRY THAT UTERUS BY LAW...

That's some shit an African would say while they fuck over their citizens while squandering the wealth with corruption. Which this man is trying to lead this country into. You are merely celebrating the convenience of being here in American so keep your hatred to yourself. You and yours have not earned the right yet being fresh off the boat.



 
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THIS IS ONE FIGHT THE GOP WILL NOT WIN and I will put money on it. They have the all fired nerve to fuck the middle class. reap the rewards of tax entitlements from them and use a hot-button issue to the poor and destitute to do a power check of blaming the poor man for the rise in the deficit. WHAT'S next FOR THE SO-CALLED DEFICITS HAWKS.
 
Post Posted: 2018-02-14 11:31:53  
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"What is it about a conservative Supreme Court that concerns you?"


I believe Capitalism is a heavily flawed system that too often rewards one's fame and/or lucky (or unlucky) positioning more than one's actual production. I see government as a totally necessary counterweight to the excesses of Capitalism. One need only to look at the states in this country that believe in highly limited Government to see how those with poor position do when Capitalism is left highly unregulated.

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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Ya'll are lucky it wasn't me in the white house.....
Had it been me, FOOD STAMPS WOULD BE DAMN NEAR OBSOLETE.....
Trust me.....You heaux will not be drinking milk and cheese....Cheese is not even good for you anyway so you really have no business eating gluten lactose cheese RICH OR POOR......

The only food assistance you all would be getting would be 70% discount on Vegetables and milk....
If you're hungry, eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus....
not bacon....
not bread....
not yogurt...
not cookies....
not Capri Sun....

Trump is much nicer than me.....had it been me, you will get your ebt cash and vegetable/milk discount and that will be all.....You don't get foodstamps for apple juice....If you want to taste the juice of an Apple, then chew a real mudafucking round ass apple....or buy that raw version, take that bitch home, and make your own apple juice......If you're too poor to buy your own apple juice, then the government will give your the RAW version....You get the free raw apples...then you make your juice....the government won't pay for to drink the SQUEEZED VERSION......Nah.....you get the real apple complete with fiber and nutrients.....not Ocean Spray Apple Juice....Not Tropicana....If You want Tropicana, you better Tropicana your ass to finding a job or tropicana some overtime hours at your existing job.....

Trump is much better me.....matter of fact, all you bitches having babies ya'll can feed will have your tubes TIED and CLIPPED....no point in having more kids if you can't feed the 4 heathen ass children you already have....WE WILL CLIP AND FRY THAT UTERUS BY LAW...

2018-02-14 11:17:07

That's some shit an African would say while they fuck over their citizens while squandering the wealth with corruption. Which this man is trying to lead this country into. You are merely celebrating the convenience of being here in American so keep your hatred to yourself. You and yours have not earned the right yet being fresh off the boat.

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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Is this the return of "Government cheese" ??

Ugh...

 
Post Posted: 2018-02-14 12:39:24  
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"The budget document calls this a "cost-effective approach." In fact, it's nothing of the kind. It's likely to raise costs, rather than reduce them. But it's being used to cloak the administration's intention to cut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP — to use the formal name of the food stamp program — by one-third, or $213.5 billion, over 10 years. (About 60% of the savings would come from the boxes, the White House asserts, the rest from narrowing eligibility for food stamps and placing a time limit on benefits.) The budget claims the food boxes will "improve the nutritional value of the benefit provided," an assertion for which there is no evidence whatsoever."

This is some Conservative Ideologue stuff. Trump is a Nationalist/ Populist. He is not a Conservative. However, there is a lack of Nationalist/Populist people available to run these departments. He defaults to these Conservatives, because they are willing do the job (of course.) If the Dems would make their arguments to him more (in a one on one situation,) I really think he'd kill off crap like this before it even gets out to the press. A big part of his base is White Trash (which is indeed on assistance etc.) So, yes, I think he'll pull this back.

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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Never been on them can't get them so I don't care.

2018-02-14 14:16:18

Lies. Unless you getting paid an hourly wage or salary now that equates to more than 1.5 times your states poverty guidelines. If your main income is still tips, you most def can get you an EBT card in Mississippi if you wanted one........#believeme

I'm on salary I would have to say I'm homeless.
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

ILL ADMIT, I SHAMEFULLY GIGGLED AT THIS....

THEM REFRIGERATORS AINT GONNA BE OVERFLOWING WITH JUNK FOOD ANYMORE...

2018-02-13 22:57:26

THATS A GOOD thing.......commodity was good from the beginning... this aint nothing new... they stop this in the early 90s.... it was a good program....the government cheese is coming back... macaroni gonna be the bomb again..... Laughing

2018-02-14 00:24:35

LOL! I do remember my aunt sending over those blocks of government cheese. But what you've forgotten is that was supplemental food that the government received from subsidizing farmers. It wasn't meant to replace the benefits you received if you were in the program. You got your benefits plus the extra food.

you still going to get your benefits they just going to cut some of it...itssead of getting 150 per month... you will get 90 per month
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Is this the return of "Government cheese" ??

Ugh...

i hope so... thats the best thing the government made.....they couldnt make a bomb betther than that because it was the bomb
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

ILL ADMIT, I SHAMEFULLY GIGGLED AT THIS....

THEM REFRIGERATORS AINT GONNA BE OVERFLOWING WITH JUNK FOOD ANYMORE...

2018-02-13 22:57:26

THATS A GOOD thing.......commodity was good from the beginning... this aint nothing new... they stop this in the early 90s.... it was a good program....the government cheese is coming back... macaroni gonna be the bomb again..... Laughing

2018-02-14 00:24:35

LOL! I do remember my aunt sending over those blocks of government cheese. But what you've forgotten is that was supplemental food that the government received from subsidizing farmers. It wasn't meant to replace the benefits you received if you were in the program. You got your benefits plus the extra food.

2018-02-14 15:46:42

you still going to get your benefits they just going to cut some of it...itssead of getting 150 per month... you will get 90 per month

Yeah. That's what the article says.
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

THIS WILL NOT WORK AND WILL WREAK HAVOC ON MANY POOR PEOPLE...


AND DID YOU SAY THEY'RE MORE WHITES THAN BLACKS CURRENTLY ON FOODSTAMPS?


2018-02-14 00:26:50

Oh yes, white people are the majority of people in the food stamp program. The stereotype though is that its all Black and Brown folks.

2018-02-14 08:46:20

Whites know that minorities are disproportionately represented in these programs. Of course, they know that many Whites are on the program. West Virginia is pretty much a White Dump......Whites usually vote based on their own pet issues...i.e. gun rights, Abortion. Immigration, Islamic Terrorism, versus gun control, Gay Rights, Social Security, Medicare. Trump combined gun rights, abortion, Immigration, Islamic Terrorism with protecting Social Security (protecting it from those in the GOP that want to raise the eligibility age.) That combination got like 60% of the White vote. The main reason I didn't vote for him is because I didn't want a Conservative Supreme Court. Most Whites don't seem to vote based on the Supreme Court. I don't think most Whites vote the way they do to hurt Blacks. We know we have our own home grown problems, and don't want other countries problems diluting the efforts to fix our own problems. Liberals seem to think we can do both. I don't think it's realistic. We have enough poor people. We need to stop taking in more n more poor people. Until we do that, most Independents will vote against those trying to give the country away to people who really should try to fix their own countries. Most of them breed beyond their means of support. An asinine thing to do.

Surprisingly, I agree with some of what you said but you still don't admit that white people of Trump's MAGA want to maintain their dominance and hegemony in this country for as long as they can. White supremacy is an undeniable core principle of Trump's base.

Immigration has nothing to do with Black people. Democrats need to come to terms with the fact that they lost on Immigration and they need to move on or lose again. BUT, we don't need a damn $20 Billion dollar wall either. That is stupid.
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

LOL...and the main heads this would scalp would be the lower income mid America whytes who voting for his dumb ass

2018-02-13 20:47:07

You're right. He probably just thinks this targeted at Black and Brown people but White people are still the majority of folks on food stamps.

2018-02-14 05:58:33

I'm guessing that the average black person doesn't understand percentages.....

Why do you say that?
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

Ya'll are lucky it wasn't me in the white house.....
Had it been me, FOOD STAMPS WOULD BE DAMN NEAR OBSOLETE.....
Trust me.....You heaux will not be drinking milk and cheese....Cheese is not even good for you anyway so you really have no business eating gluten lactose cheese RICH OR POOR......

The only food assistance you all would be getting would be 70% discount on Vegetables and milk....
If you're hungry, eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus....
not bacon....
not bread....
not yogurt...
not cookies....
not Capri Sun....

Trump is much nicer than me.....had it been me, you will get your ebt cash and vegetable/milk discount and that will be all.....You don't get foodstamps for apple juice....If you want to taste the juice of an Apple, then chew a real mudafucking round ass apple....or buy that raw version, take that bitch home, and make your own apple juice......If you're too poor to buy your own apple juice, then the government will give your the RAW version....You get the free raw apples...then you make your juice....the government won't pay for to drink the SQUEEZED VERSION......Nah.....you get the real apple complete with fiber and nutrients.....not Ocean Spray Apple Juice....Not Tropicana....If You want Tropicana, you better Tropicana your ass to finding a job or tropicana some overtime hours at your existing job.....

Trump is much better me.....matter of fact, all you bitches having babies ya'll can feed will have your tubes TIED and CLIPPED....no point in having more kids if you can't feed the 4 heathen ass children you already have....WE WILL CLIP AND FRY THAT UTERUS BY LAW...

2018-02-14 15:13:50

Under certain circumstances, you're absolutely correct and I would agree. In many cases, the shit is very necessary or else it wouldn't have come into place to begin with.

PEOPLE in general can be very corrupt and greedy as we have proof of in EVERY nation on the planet.

There are people with specialized positions who can spot and report such shit human beings abusing a otherwise great program, but because of greed, corruption and shit egotism we get an over abundance of people fucking shit up.

This has to change and we as decent citizens should work harder at changing things for the better as opposed to lumping everyone in the system in the toilet!

THIS SHIT HERE...
 
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"eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus...."


sauvage lmao.....
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

THIS WILL NOT WORK AND WILL WREAK HAVOC ON MANY POOR PEOPLE...


AND DID YOU SAY THEY'RE MORE WHITES THAN BLACKS CURRENTLY ON FOODSTAMPS?


2018-02-14 00:26:50

Oh yes, white people are the majority of people in the food stamp program. The stereotype though is that its all Black and Brown folks.

2018-02-14 08:46:20

Whites know that minorities are disproportionately represented in these programs. Of course, they know that many Whites are on the program. West Virginia is pretty much a White Dump......Whites usually vote based on their own pet issues...i.e. gun rights, Abortion. Immigration, Islamic Terrorism, versus gun control, Gay Rights, Social Security, Medicare. Trump combined gun rights, abortion, Immigration, Islamic Terrorism with protecting Social Security (protecting it from those in the GOP that want to raise the eligibility age.) That combination got like 60% of the White vote. The main reason I didn't vote for him is because I didn't want a Conservative Supreme Court. Most Whites don't seem to vote based on the Supreme Court. I don't think most Whites vote the way they do to hurt Blacks. We know we have our own home grown problems, and don't want other countries problems diluting the efforts to fix our own problems. Liberals seem to think we can do both. I don't think it's realistic. We have enough poor people. We need to stop taking in more n more poor people. Until we do that, most Independents will vote against those trying to give the country away to people who really should try to fix their own countries. Most of them breed beyond their means of support. An asinine thing to do.

2018-02-14 16:41:53

Surprisingly, I agree with some of what you said but you still don't admit that white people of Trump's MAGA want to maintain their dominance and hegemony in this country for as long as they can. White supremacy is an undeniable core principle of Trump's base.

Immigration has nothing to do with Black people. Democrats need to come to terms with the fact that they lost on Immigration and they need to move on or lose again. BUT, we don't need a damn $20 Billion dollar wall either. That is stupid.

Well you can't have open borders, and have Social Security, Medicare etc. We spend about 600 billion more per year on those 2 things than we take in taxes to pay for them. They are partially unfunded. That's the biggest reason we have this 20 trillion dollar debt. We need to get serious about people obeying our immigration laws. Other countries don't put up with this.
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

"eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus...."


sauvage lmao.....

You damn right....
I have a bottle of DIOR SAUVAGE but I'M NOT A SAVAGE....
I'M JUST TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH.....

A lot of those food stamps allow you to buy food that is not even healthy.....I've seen people buying all kinds for trashy foods with food stamps when I'm in line at grocery store and it's pathetic.....buying all kinds of 2 liter cokes and fanta....that shit is sooo bad for you....why are you using government money to be sugary drinks?...shouldn't you be buying juice and water?

If the government is going to finance your meal then atleast is better be healthy as fuck.....I don't see why food stamp holders should be able to buy CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH and CAPTAIN CRUNCH.....nah...that shit is wrong.....you don't use taxes and government funds to be foods that give diabetes.....I actually want these people on foodstamps to be healthy.....I WANT THE BEST FOR THEM.....and I don't wanna hear no shit about "IT'S A FREE COUNTRY" and "freedom of choice"....ya'll could suck my ass with that free country shit.....yeah it's a free country but using free government funds to buy FANTA comes with diabetes....and curing/treating diabetes is not FREE....it's very expensive.....so all this FREE THIS AND FREE THAT....AND FREE CHOICE....AND FREE COUNTRY....free free free.....ya'll need to stop with that stupid "free" mentality....NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE.....so just stop...

The issue for me is this....IF THE GOVERNMENT is going to finance your meals, then the options better be healthy as fuck..I DON'T NEED TO SEE BETTY CROCKER CAKE MIX IN YOUR CART...naw...I wanna see some ground beef and raw potatoes in that cart...not jimmy deans sausage filled with hormones and preservatives you don't need....If you wanna eat trash then use your own money to buy the trash you wanna eat.....because when you get sick from eating all this trash you bought with government money, you'll be running to the government for healthcare as well.......so now we'll be spending twice the amount to keep your bum ass alive..........and that is not the point....the point of foodstamp is to NOURISH YOUR ASS and give your strength to make moves to get off food stamps.....but if you're constantly buying poisonous foods with foodstamps, you'll never have the strength and brain power/clarity to get your shit together.....and this is how ppl end up living on foodstamps FOREVER....because they become stuck....eating destructive foods cause BRAIN FOG....and brain fog is a real mental disorder that destroys lives.....and brain fog causes you to feel stuck...brain fog is like cigarette addiction except it's much worse.....and it primarily comes from the overly processed foods we eat......
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

"eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus...."


sauvage lmao.....

"..I actually want these people on foodstamps to be healthy.....I WANT THE BEST FOR THEM..."


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2018-02-13 20:20:23

"eat a salad.....eat a carrot.....eat some asparagus...."


sauvage lmao.....

2018-02-14 19:44:55

You damn right....
I have a bottle of DIOR SAUVAGE but I'M NOT A SAVAGE....
I'M JUST TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH.....

A lot of those food stamps allow you to buy food that is not even healthy.....I've seen people buying all kinds for trashy foods with food stamps when I'm in line at grocery store and it's pathetic.....buying all kinds of 2 liter cokes and fanta....that shit is sooo bad for you....why are you using government money to be sugary drinks?...shouldn't you be buying juice and water?

If the government is going to finance your meal then atleast is better be healthy as fuck.....I don't see why food stamp holders should be able to buy CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH and CAPTAIN CRUNCH.....nah...that shit is wrong.....you don't use taxes and government funds to be foods that give diabetes.....I actually want these people on foodstamps to be healthy.....I WANT THE BEST FOR THEM.....and I don't wanna hear no shit about "IT'S A FREE COUNTRY" and "freedom of choice"....ya'll could suck my ass with that free country shit.....yeah it's a free country but using free government funds to buy FANTA comes with diabetes....and curing/treating diabetes is not FREE....it's very expensive.....so all this FREE THIS AND FREE THAT....AND FREE CHOICE....AND FREE COUNTRY....free free free.....ya'll need to stop with that stupid "free" mentality....NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE.....so just stop...

The issue for me is this....IF THE GOVERNMENT is going to finance your meals, then the options better be healthy as fuck..I DON'T NEED TO SEE BETTY CROCKER CAKE MIX IN YOUR CART...naw...I wanna see some ground beef and raw potatoes in that cart...not jimmy deans sausage filled with hormones and preservatives you don't need....If you wanna eat trash then use your own money to buy the trash you wanna eat.....because when you get sick from eating all this trash you bought with government money, you'll be running to the government for healthcare as well.......so now we'll be spending twice the amount to keep your bum ass alive..........and that is not the point....the point of foodstamp is to NOURISH YOUR ASS and give your strength to make moves to get off food stamps.....but if you're constantly buying poisonous foods with foodstamps, you'll never have the strength and brain power/clarity to get your shit together.....and this is how ppl end up living on foodstamps FOREVER....because they become stuck....eating destructive foods cause BRAIN FOG....and brain fog is a real mental disorder that destroys lives.....and brain fog causes you to feel stuck...brain fog is like cigarette addiction except it's much worse.....and it primarily comes from the overly processed foods we eat......

Im ok on your opinion ...my family has been on stamps....

My Aunt, her husband and 5 five lived with mom grandmother once in the late 80's and again in early 90's, lived with my black grandmother who also got stamps.

Auntie was working and starting getting stamps on the basis of her children and husband.

Kept receiving them after income changed...They prosecuted her and made her pay restitution, all thru the 2000's from 80's to 90's stemmed offences.

Not I said A......I don't even eat that much.
 
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2018-02-13 20:20:23

THIS WILL NOT WORK AND WILL WREAK HAVOC ON MANY POOR PEOPLE...


AND DID YOU SAY THEY'RE MORE WHITES THAN BLACKS CURRENTLY ON FOODSTAMPS?


2018-02-14 00:26:50

Oh yes, white people are the majority of people in the food stamp program. The stereotype though is that its all Black and Brown folks.

2018-02-14 08:46:20

Whites know that minorities are disproportionately represented in these programs. Of course, they know that many Whites are on the program. West Virginia is pretty much a White Dump......Whites usually vote based on their own pet issues...i.e. gun rights, Abortion. Immigration, Islamic Terrorism, versus gun control, Gay Rights, Social Security, Medicare. Trump combined gun rights, abortion, Immigration, Islamic Terrorism with protecting Social Security (protecting it from those in the GOP that want to raise the eligibility age.) That combination got like 60% of the White vote. The main reason I didn't vote for him is because I didn't want a Conservative Supreme Court. Most Whites don't seem to vote based on the Supreme Court. I don't think most Whites vote the way they do to hurt Blacks. We know we have our own home grown problems, and don't want other countries problems diluting the efforts to fix our own problems. Liberals seem to think we can do both. I don't think it's realistic. We have enough poor people. We need to stop taking in more n more poor people. Until we do that, most Independents will vote against those trying to give the country away to people who really should try to fix their own countries. Most of them breed beyond their means of support. An asinine thing to do.

2018-02-14 16:41:53

Surprisingly, I agree with some of what you said but you still don't admit that white people of Trump's MAGA want to maintain their dominance and hegemony in this country for as long as they can. White supremacy is an undeniable core principle of Trump's base.

Immigration has nothing to do with Black people. Democrats need to come to terms with the fact that they lost on Immigration and they need to move on or lose again. BUT, we don't need a damn $20 Billion dollar wall either. That is stupid.

2018-02-14 19:22:02

Well you can't have open borders, and have Social Security, Medicare etc. We spend about 600 billion more per year on those 2 things than we take in taxes to pay for them. They are partially unfunded. That's the biggest reason we have this 20 trillion dollar debt. We need to get serious about people obeying our immigration laws. Other countries don't put up with this.

I get that there are immigration rules and the rules should be followed but that is the only concern to me. I don't spend time thinking about whether the illegal immigrants are Irish or Latino or come from "shithole countries" but many white people do. That tells me its not just about the 'rules' for them. The suggestion is that if they are white from Norway then maybe we don't care so much about the rules in that case.

Even talking about the social security is just a deflection. The social security program is in jeopardy because Baby Boomers are a huge part of the population and the people paying taxes who are Gen Xers like myself were not a boom population. More people (baby boomers) are retiring but less people are working and paying into the system to support such huge population. See? It has much less to do with Mexicans in the country illegally but you think I'm supposed to jump on board with that.
 
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THIS WILL NOT WORK AND WILL WREAK HAVOC ON MANY POOR PEOPLE...


AND DID YOU SAY THEY'RE MORE WHITES THAN BLACKS CURRENTLY ON FOODSTAMPS?


2018-02-14 00:26:50

Oh yes, white people are the majority of people in the food stamp program. The stereotype though is that its all Black and Brown folks.

2018-02-14 08:46:20

Whites know that minorities are disproportionately represented in these programs. Of course, they know that many Whites are on the program. West Virginia is pretty much a White Dump......Whites usually vote based on their own pet issues...i.e. gun rights, Abortion. Immigration, Islamic Terrorism, versus gun control, Gay Rights, Social Security, Medicare. Trump combined gun rights, abortion, Immigration, Islamic Terrorism with protecting Social Security (protecting it from those in the GOP that want to raise the eligibility age.) That combination got like 60% of the White vote. The main reason I didn't vote for him is because I didn't want a Conservative Supreme Court. Most Whites don't seem to vote based on the Supreme Court. I don't think most Whites vote the way they do to hurt Blacks. We know we have our own home grown problems, and don't want other countries problems diluting the efforts to fix our own problems. Liberals seem to think we can do both. I don't think it's realistic. We have enough poor people. We need to stop taking in more n more poor people. Until we do that, most Independents will vote against those trying to give the country away to people who really should try to fix their own countries. Most of them breed beyond their means of support. An asinine thing to do.

2018-02-14 16:41:53

Surprisingly, I agree with some of what you said but you still don't admit that white people of Trump's MAGA want to maintain their dominance and hegemony in this country for as long as they can. White supremacy is an undeniable core principle of Trump's base.

Immigration has nothing to do with Black people. Democrats need to come to terms with the fact that they lost on Immigration and they need to move on or lose again. BUT, we don't need a damn $20 Billion dollar wall either. That is stupid.

2018-02-14 19:22:02

Well you can't have open borders, and have Social Security, Medicare etc. We spend about 600 billion more per year on those 2 things than we take in taxes to pay for them. They are partially unfunded. That's the biggest reason we have this 20 trillion dollar debt. We need to get serious about people obeying our immigration laws. Other countries don't put up with this.

2018-02-15 14:25:13

I get that there are immigration rules and the rules should be followed but that is the only concern to me. I don't spend time thinking about whether the illegal immigrants are Irish or Latino or come from "shithole countries" but many white people do. That tells me its not just about the 'rules' for them. The suggestion is that if they are white from Norway then maybe we don't care so much about the rules in that case.

Even talking about the social security is just a deflection. The social security program is in jeopardy because Baby Boomers are a huge part of the population and the people paying taxes who are Gen Xers like myself were not a boom population. More people (baby boomers) are retiring but less people are working and paying into the system to support such huge population. See? It has much less to do with Mexicans in the country illegally but you think I'm supposed to jump on board with that.

"The social security program is in jeopardy because Baby Boomers are a huge part of the population and the people paying taxes who are Gen Xers like myself were not a boom population."

Following that logic would mean that, when baby boomers were almost all working, enough money was paid into easily pay for their social security and medicare. Clearly, that's not true.

"I don't spend time thinking about whether the illegal immigrants are Irish or Latino or come from "shithole countries" but many white people do."

Of course, we do, because we can look at any birth rate map of the world, and see that lower birth rates occur in countries with with higher GNP, standard of living rates etc. Culture matters a whole lot. If one's culture encourages a high bastard rate, and breeding beyond one's means of support, then, you really won't have a chance to compete economically with those who have more responsible cultures. Whites have cut their birthrate to counteract the overbreeding by those who come from less responsible cultures. Somebody has to be the adult in the room.

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