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Post Posted: 2017-02-16 20:19:49  
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Trump and I are in 100% agreement on this. Find every illegal mf and send them back to their country.



 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

when the blacks are forced back to the fields, then what?

The people that come to this country are accorded rights and privileges from the gate. They hop on affirmative action, because the demonic white seeks to dilute the hard won rights our ancestors fought and died for.

Your retort is weak (but I hear your neck game is skrong). The dial back to slavery times is not going to happen. That fight has been fought. Besides, there are still plenty of hispanics who have green cards or are citizens who are happy to do the work.
 
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....
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Post Posted: 2017-02-16 20:36:01  
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I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.
 
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 20:34:39

many of them think they are white, though.

still the anglo whites give them such a rough time and being that Donald has pissed them off..i think they still identify more as a minority
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Post Posted: 2017-02-16 20:56:22  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 20:34:39

many of them think they are white, though.

2017-02-16 20:38:10

still the anglo whites give them such a rough time and being that Donald has pissed them off..i think they still identify more as a minority

2017-02-16 20:42:53

the election exit polls say otherwise. 🙃

Where did you get your numbers from?

Latino leaders are refusing to accept exit poll data showing President-elect Donald Trump won 29 percent of the Hispanic vote Tuesday.

Instead the leaders said they stand by the findings of Latino Decisions polling firm, whose data showed Trump a record low 18 percent of Latinos voted for Trump.

"We strongly dispute exit poll reports that suggest Trump support for the Latino community exceeded that of Mitt Romney in 2012," Janet Murguía, president of the National Council of La Raza, said at a Thursday news conference in Washington, D.C. Several other leaders were at the news conference and echoed her remarks.

Election Day exit polling showed the 13 million Latinos who turned out made up 11 percent of the electorate. The polling showed Latinos broke 65 percent for Clinton to 29 percent for Trump. In 2012, President Barack Obama got 71 percent of the Latino vote, while Romney finished with 27 percent.



http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/latino-leaders-trump-did-not-win-29-percent-hispanic-vote-n682291

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Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:09:47  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 20:42:14

this.

i don't fuck with them like that, outside of the few woke Latino friends in my circle who get it. many of them believe that they are deserving of all of the benefits that come with whiteness and feel that their language is the only thing in the way of melting them into the melting pot that is whiteness. this is why they have bipolar voting patterns and fuck up the census every 10 years.

that being said, there are many consequences that come as a result of deporting them that i don't think have been well thought out. Also, I treat Latinos and Asians and all immigrant groups as stepping stones to achieve bottom lines within coalition building. That's how they treat Blacks and it's smart. This is not the time to break from that.

The effects are already starting or at least seeming to start. California farmers who voted for Trump are now worried that their labor force of undocumented workers might be taken away which, of course, would impact costs of food all over the country due to a shortage of labor. It baffles me that they would be worried or surprised by this but I did read on Facebook post that they did not actually believe Trump would carryout with this promise when voting for him.

I personally don't see other POC groups as stepping stones because I believe that we ultimately have the same goal which is equality. Being a stepping stone means that someone has to be beneath another.
 
Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:34:10  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 21:25:02

The ignorance of Hispanic culture among African-Americans astounds me. You do realize that the Dominican Republican is a Hispanic nation that has a lot of blacks in it, right? Some Hispanic people are white. Some Hispanic people are black. Some Hispanic people are Native American. Some are a mix of the three. Each culture has a different outlook.

For example, Mexicans tend to be more racists towards blacks whereas Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to be more accepting of mixing among blacks along with acknowledging that some of them are black. Cubans tend to be highly racists. You can't really generalize Hispanic people because we come in all different shades, cultures, races, and attitudes.

For the African-Americans who get upset that some Hispanic people identify as white, you do realize that Spain was white, European power that spread all over the world via imperialism like Britain, right? People from Spain are white.

My statement stands. You can be both Black and Latino first off. And it's well documented that some Latinos who are of African descent do not like to identify with their Africans roots. Hence, you have some Dominicans and other Latinos who are darker than you or me get heated when you call them Black.

I never said I was upset some Latinos identify as White.

There's no need to bold and underline; I'm wearing my glasses and can read your font just fine without it
 
Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:37:48  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:14:01

Minority actually means subordinate and majority actually means dominant sociologically speaking. So, while, population wise, there might be more Hispanics, they socially are still a subordinate group in regards to social and political power. For example, what percentage of the Georgia state legislature is Hispanic? Not a very large percentage. There is not really a one to one mapping between demographic size and political power in terms of voting in that, historically, the United States has found various ways to suppress this.

The problem is what percentage of the growing Hispanic population is represented in positions of economic and/or political power and not so much how big the population actually is. There may be more of us(Hispanic people that is), but this does not translate into being more represented politically or economically.

Using Georgia's legislative body is an erroneous comparison because you haven't accounted for the percentage of Hispanics in Georgia's general population which is 8.8%
 
Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:47:03  
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 20:34:39

many of them think they are white, though.

Exactly and they appropriate white privilege in order to enjoy shitting on us. Fuck that. Send these mfs home.
 
Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:48:31  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

when the blacks are forced back to the fields, then what?

2017-02-16 20:30:08

The people that come to this country are accorded rights and privileges from the gate. They hop on affirmative action, because the demonic white seeks to dilute the hard won rights our ancestors fought and died for.

Your retort is weak (but I hear your neck game is skrong). The dial back to slavery times is not going to happen. That fight has been fought. Besides, there are still plenty of hispanics who have green cards or are citizens who are happy to do the work.

2017-02-16 20:32:32

if they can take away our right to vote and disenfranchise us, what makes you think we are out of the woods when it comes to our freedom and not being field hands once again?

I hear you. CRA and VRA are tenuous at best. However, there are too many white people who have a vested interest in keeping us "free". We wont lose those rights. Send these mfs home.



 
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I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

I don't see them marching for our causes. So fuck them. I do not need a fence to sit on when it comes to this. They need to go.
 
Post Posted: 2017-02-16 21:50:20  
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:14:01

Minority actually means subordinate and majority actually means dominant sociologically speaking. So, while, population wise, there might be more Hispanics, they socially are still a subordinate group in regards to social and political power. For example, what percentage of the Georgia state legislature is Hispanic? Not a very large percentage. There is not really a one to one mapping between demographic size and political power in terms of voting in that, historically, the United States has found various ways to suppress this.

The problem is what percentage of the growing Hispanic population is represented in positions of economic and/or political power and not so much how big the population actually is. There may be more of us(Hispanic people that is), but this does not translate into being more represented politically or economically.

of course not now. however it could in the future provided they put them in positions of effective leadership to provide better opportunities for their group and being progressive and innovative....the way that ATL first Black mayor Maynard Jackson did for ATL in 1970s....I don't think ATL would be the Black mecca it is today if not for Black effective leadership since the 70s and willingness to give Blacks more opportunities for economic and political growth...its not perfect and still need much more improvement, however economically it's in a good position economically in comparison to other major urban cities with Black leadership....
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

Hispanics are racist af. They do not love black people. At all. Fuck hector and them.
 
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:51:45

Hispanics are racist af. They do not love black people. At all. Fuck hector and them.

not all of them.....those who would be willing to contribute to our mutually beneficial causes still would be better than what we have now....some is better than none..what could it hurt being that the anglos are not moving fast to help improve situations..
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:14:01

Minority actually means subordinate and majority actually means dominant sociologically speaking. So, while, population wise, there might be more Hispanics, they socially are still a subordinate group in regards to social and political power. For example, what percentage of the Georgia state legislature is Hispanic? Not a very large percentage. There is not really a one to one mapping between demographic size and political power in terms of voting in that, historically, the United States has found various ways to suppress this.

The problem is what percentage of the growing Hispanic population is represented in positions of economic and/or political power and not so much how big the population actually is. There may be more of us(Hispanic people that is), but this does not translate into being more represented politically or economically.

2017-02-16 21:50:20

of course not now. however it could in the future provided they put them in positions of effective leadership to provide better opportunities for their group and being progressive and innovative....the way that ATL first Black mayor Maynard Jackson did for ATL in 1970s....I don't think ATL would be the Black mecca it is today if not for Black effective leadership since the 70s and willingness to give Blacks more opportunities for economic and political growth...its not perfect and still need much more improvement, however economically it's in a good position economically in comparison to other major urban cities with Black leadership....

2017-02-16 21:57:13

The problem is that you have competition. For example, this wave of anti-Hispanic sentiments were are seeing is in response to feeling threatened, so the majority is responding in a way to try and under cut that thereby making it more problematic than trying to create leadership opportunities in that the majority in the country, the Anglo white man, will attempt to compromise and suppress it. Hispanic people are in the same boat as African-Americans, really.

i know...this is why i say we should combine forces in voting to get more representation at every level, provided their population keep increasing....

Personally, i think this is the reason the anglo whites wants them out, they dont want to be the minority politically....

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2017-02-16 20:19:49

I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 21:25:02

The ignorance of Hispanic culture among African-Americans astounds me. You do realize that the Dominican Republican is a Hispanic nation that has a lot of blacks in it, right? Some Hispanic people are white. Some Hispanic people are black. Some Hispanic people are Native American. Some are a mix of the three. Each culture has a different outlook.

For example, Mexicans tend to be more racists towards blacks whereas Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to be more accepting of mixing among blacks along with acknowledging that some of them are black. Cubans tend to be highly racists. You can't really generalize Hispanic people because we come in all different shades, cultures, races, and attitudes.

For the African-Americans who get upset that some Hispanic people identify as white, you do realize that Spain was white, European power that spread all over the world via imperialism like Britain, right? People from Spain are white.

2017-02-16 21:34:10

My statement stands. You can be both Black and Latino first off. And it's well documented that some Latinos who are of African descent do not like to identify with their Africans roots. Hence, you have some Dominicans and other Latinos who are darker than you or me get heated when you call them Black.

I never said I was upset some Latinos identify as White.

There's no need to bold and underline; I'm wearing my glasses and can read your font just fine without it

2017-02-16 21:41:59

Actually, I have recently started to coordinate an organization for Latino Americans, and the experience that Afro-latins are reporting is the pressure to assimilate into American culture per denying their Afro-latin roots while embracing African-American culture where that is being interpreted as rejecting being black. They are not rejecting being black. They are rejecting an Anglo construct of blackness that is being forced on them.

An example of this is the Afro-latin religion Santeria. African-Americans tend to be Protestant Christian culturally whereas some Venezuelans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans who are Afro-latin practice Santeria. There is a culture clash where a lot of African-Americans define blackness by their version of it. The African-American community keeps attempting to assimilate the Afro-latin community and gets pissy and accuses them of not being in touch with their black roots when they resists the same way white non-Hispanics are getting pissy when white Hispanics don't assimilate.

Isn't Latino a White construct also? I mean the word itself is rooted in the Roman civilization. Usually the indigenous people of a "Latin-American" country are not counted as Latino. Usually it's the people who have been shaped by Spanish culture that identify as Latino. I just find it funny (or not so funny) that "Afro-Latinos" would readily reject Blackness on the grounds of rejecting Anglicanism, as you claim, but has less trouble rejecting the European influences that shaped their culture.

I say all this to say that some Afro-Latinos' rejection of blackness is not a rejection of European culture but rather an internalization of the "white is right" ideal whether they want to admit it or not.
 
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i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:14:01

Minority actually means subordinate and majority actually means dominant sociologically speaking. So, while, population wise, there might be more Hispanics, they socially are still a subordinate group in regards to social and political power. For example, what percentage of the Georgia state legislature is Hispanic? Not a very large percentage. There is not really a one to one mapping between demographic size and political power in terms of voting in that, historically, the United States has found various ways to suppress this.

The problem is what percentage of the growing Hispanic population is represented in positions of economic and/or political power and not so much how big the population actually is. There may be more of us(Hispanic people that is), but this does not translate into being more represented politically or economically.

2017-02-16 21:50:20

of course not now. however it could in the future provided they put them in positions of effective leadership to provide better opportunities for their group and being progressive and innovative....the way that ATL first Black mayor Maynard Jackson did for ATL in 1970s....I don't think ATL would be the Black mecca it is today if not for Black effective leadership since the 70s and willingness to give Blacks more opportunities for economic and political growth...its not perfect and still need much more improvement, however economically it's in a good position economically in comparison to other major urban cities with Black leadership....

2017-02-16 21:57:13

The problem is that you have competition. For example, this wave of anti-Hispanic sentiments were are seeing is in response to feeling threatened, so the majority is responding in a way to try and under cut that thereby making it more problematic than trying to create leadership opportunities in that the majority in the country, the Anglo white man, will attempt to compromise and suppress it. Hispanic people are in the same boat as African-Americans, really.

2017-02-16 22:07:34

i know...this is why i say we should combine forces in voting to get more representation at every level, provided their population keep increasing....

Personally, i think this is the reason the anglo whites wants them out, they dont want to be the minority politically....

2017-02-16 22:10:37

Kind of hard to do that with threads like this. Hispanic people aren't doing this, mind you. It is hard to combine forces when African-Americans culturally are so against other blacks. This thread is an example of African-American blacks saying bans against other blacks are not their issue along with discrimination against other Hispanic blacks not being their issue along with supporting discrimination against non-black Hispanics. Ideas like what is behind this thread, which are floating around in African-American culture, make it hard.

Modern-day African-Americans of my generation have a hard time unifying and working together.

that may be true in some circles however it is not what i have experienced with my association with Hispanics....i dated a few Hispanics , culturally we had no problems....i see the problems that arise here are due to insecurities, if they can get pass "who is better than whom" they will see that basically we are all the same...
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I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 21:25:02

The ignorance of Hispanic culture among African-Americans astounds me. You do realize that the Dominican Republican is a Hispanic nation that has a lot of blacks in it, right? Some Hispanic people are white. Some Hispanic people are black. Some Hispanic people are Native American. Some are a mix of the three. Each culture has a different outlook.

For example, Mexicans tend to be more racists towards blacks whereas Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to be more accepting of mixing among blacks along with acknowledging that some of them are black. Cubans tend to be highly racists. You can't really generalize Hispanic people because we come in all different shades, cultures, races, and attitudes.

For the African-Americans who get upset that some Hispanic people identify as white, you do realize that Spain was white, European power that spread all over the world via imperialism like Britain, right? People from Spain are white.

2017-02-16 21:34:10

My statement stands. You can be both Black and Latino first off. And it's well documented that some Latinos who are of African descent do not like to identify with their Africans roots. Hence, you have some Dominicans and other Latinos who are darker than you or me get heated when you call them Black.

I never said I was upset some Latinos identify as White.

There's no need to bold and underline; I'm wearing my glasses and can read your font just fine without it

2017-02-16 21:41:59

Actually, I have recently started to coordinate an organization for Latino Americans, and the experience that Afro-latins are reporting is the pressure to assimilate into American culture per denying their Afro-latin roots while embracing African-American culture where that is being interpreted as rejecting being black. They are not rejecting being black. They are rejecting an Anglo construct of blackness that is being forced on them.

An example of this is the Afro-latin religion Santeria. African-Americans tend to be Protestant Christian culturally whereas some Venezuelans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans who are Afro-latin practice Santeria. There is a culture clash where a lot of African-Americans define blackness by their version of it. The African-American community keeps attempting to assimilate the Afro-latin community and gets pissy and accuses them of not being in touch with their black roots when they resists the same way white non-Hispanics are getting pissy when white Hispanics don't assimilate.

2017-02-16 22:11:58

Isn't Latino a White construct also? I mean the word itself is rooted in the Roman civilization. Usually the indigenous people of a "Latin-American" country are not counted as Latino. Usually it's the people who have been shaped by Spanish culture that identify as Latino. I just find it funny (or not so funny) that "Afro-Latinos" would readily reject Blackness on the grounds of rejecting Anglicanism, as you claim, but has less trouble rejecting the European influences that shaped their culture.

I say all this to say that some Afro-Latinos' rejection of blackness is not a rejection of European culture but rather an internalization of the "white is right" ideal whether they want to admit it or not.

2017-02-16 22:18:09

You are very ignorant of Hispanic culture, yet you make claims about it. Just ignorant.

I say Puerto Rican so people know what I am talking about, but I, and others, claim boricua. What does boricua mean? Boricua references the islands original name, which is Boriqueen. This is a Arawak/Taino name. It is a Native name before whites came to the island. So, yes, Spanish is a white construct; however, a lot people on the island call themselves boricua and not Puerto Rican, which is a white name. However, this references the Taino population. Puerto Rico has a high population of people from Spain which are not of Taino descent.

In other words, Spanish people in Puerto Rico identify with their white roots. Taino people in Puerto Rico identify with their Native roots. People mixed with Taino tend to be mixed with black so boricua also is a nod to that.

My profile says I am Boricua. Boricua references non-white inhabitants of Puerto Rico.

So, is George's rule about Latinos not marrying Blacks true or false?
 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 21:25:02

The ignorance of Hispanic culture among African-Americans astounds me. You do realize that the Dominican Republican is a Hispanic nation that has a lot of blacks in it, right? Some Hispanic people are white. Some Hispanic people are black. Some Hispanic people are Native American. Some are a mix of the three. Each culture has a different outlook.

For example, Mexicans tend to be more racists towards blacks whereas Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to be more accepting of mixing among blacks along with acknowledging that some of them are black. Cubans tend to be highly racists. You can't really generalize Hispanic people because we come in all different shades, cultures, races, and attitudes.

For the African-Americans who get upset that some Hispanic people identify as white, you do realize that Spain was white, European power that spread all over the world via imperialism like Britain, right? People from Spain are white.

2017-02-16 21:34:10

My statement stands. You can be both Black and Latino first off. And it's well documented that some Latinos who are of African descent do not like to identify with their Africans roots. Hence, you have some Dominicans and other Latinos who are darker than you or me get heated when you call them Black.

I never said I was upset some Latinos identify as White.

There's no need to bold and underline; I'm wearing my glasses and can read your font just fine without it

2017-02-16 21:41:59

Actually, I have recently started to coordinate an organization for Latino Americans, and the experience that Afro-latins are reporting is the pressure to assimilate into American culture per denying their Afro-latin roots while embracing African-American culture where that is being interpreted as rejecting being black. They are not rejecting being black. They are rejecting an Anglo construct of blackness that is being forced on them.

An example of this is the Afro-latin religion Santeria. African-Americans tend to be Protestant Christian culturally whereas some Venezuelans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans who are Afro-latin practice Santeria. There is a culture clash where a lot of African-Americans define blackness by their version of it. The African-American community keeps attempting to assimilate the Afro-latin community and gets pissy and accuses them of not being in touch with their black roots when they resists the same way white non-Hispanics are getting pissy when white Hispanics don't assimilate.

2017-02-16 22:11:58

Isn't Latino a White construct also? I mean the word itself is rooted in the Roman civilization. Usually the indigenous people of a "Latin-American" country are not counted as Latino. Usually it's the people who have been shaped by Spanish culture that identify as Latino. I just find it funny (or not so funny) that "Afro-Latinos" would readily reject Blackness on the grounds of rejecting Anglicanism, as you claim, but has less trouble rejecting the European influences that shaped their culture.

I say all this to say that some Afro-Latinos' rejection of blackness is not a rejection of European culture but rather an internalization of the "white is right" ideal whether they want to admit it or not.

2017-02-16 22:18:09

You are very ignorant of Hispanic culture, yet you make claims about it. Just ignorant.

I say Puerto Rican so people know what I am talking about, but I, and others, claim boricua. What does boricua mean? Boricua references the islands original name, which is Boriqueen. This is a Arawak/Taino name. It is a Native name before whites came to the island. So, yes, Spanish is a white construct; however, a lot people on the island call themselves boricua and not Puerto Rican, which is a white name. However, this references the Taino population. Puerto Rico has a high population of people from Spain which are not of Taino descent.

In other words, Spanish people in Puerto Rico identify with their white roots. Taino people in Puerto Rico identify with their Native roots. People mixed with Taino tend to be mixed with black so boricua also is a nod to that.

My profile says I am Boricua. Boricua references non-white inhabitants of Puerto Rico.

2017-02-16 22:49:30

So, is George's rule about Latinos not marrying Blacks true or false?

2017-02-16 22:53:41

For Mexicans, it is not false. For all Hispanics, yes, it is false. Mexicans tend to have more racists attitudes towards blacks which causes them to not get along with Puerto Ricans. The idea that Mexicans have tends to be that Puerto Ricans are less pure because they tend to be less white. Puerto Ricans, on the other hand, tend to have very strong relationships with blacks, boricua or otherwise, as do Dominicans though there is tension between Dominicans and Haitians.

Do Hispanics as a whole care about the state of Black Americans
 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

when the blacks are forced back to the fields, then what?

Then we fight. But the fight hasn't come to us...but best believe this "chicago reform" and talk of "crime" is code for harming black people with impunity. However, the illegals and immigrants need to hold their own nuts. They don't in large speak up or champion black cause. Why in the fuck should we fight their battles?
 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

Bruh don't fall for that "we are all minorities" okey-doke bullshit Laughing Most Hispanics classify themselves as WHITE when they check those boxes.
 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

I'm kinda conflicted on this issue. On one hand illegal immigrants have been beneficial to the economy and I personally believe that this immigration issue is more about race than economics. I'd feel like a hypocrite if I were okay with racism being afflicted on one race and not on another.

On the other hand, I believe many immigrants couldn\'t care less about the state of Black Americans, and I think they look down on us. This was made apparent recently with George Lopez's joke about Latinos' rule about not marrying Black.

2017-02-16 21:25:02

The ignorance of Hispanic culture among African-Americans astounds me. You do realize that the Dominican Republican is a Hispanic nation that has a lot of blacks in it, right? Some Hispanic people are white. Some Hispanic people are black. Some Hispanic people are Native American. Some are a mix of the three. Each culture has a different outlook.

For example, Mexicans tend to be more racists towards blacks whereas Puerto Ricans and Dominicans tend to be more accepting of mixing among blacks along with acknowledging that some of them are black. Cubans tend to be highly racists. You can't really generalize Hispanic people because we come in all different shades, cultures, races, and attitudes.

For the African-Americans who get upset that some Hispanic people identify as white, you do realize that Spain was white, European power that spread all over the world via imperialism like Britain, right? People from Spain are white.

2017-02-16 21:34:10

My statement stands. You can be both Black and Latino first off. And it's well documented that some Latinos who are of African descent do not like to identify with their Africans roots. Hence, you have some Dominicans and other Latinos who are darker than you or me get heated when you call them Black.

I never said I was upset some Latinos identify as White.

There's no need to bold and underline; I'm wearing my glasses and can read your font just fine without it

2017-02-16 21:41:59

Actually, I have recently started to coordinate an organization for Latino Americans, and the experience that Afro-latins are reporting is the pressure to assimilate into American culture per denying their Afro-latin roots while embracing African-American culture where that is being interpreted as rejecting being black. They are not rejecting being black. They are rejecting an Anglo construct of blackness that is being forced on them.

An example of this is the Afro-latin religion Santeria. African-Americans tend to be Protestant Christian culturally whereas some Venezuelans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominicans who are Afro-latin practice Santeria. There is a culture clash where a lot of African-Americans define blackness by their version of it. The African-American community keeps attempting to assimilate the Afro-latin community and gets pissy and accuses them of not being in touch with their black roots when they resists the same way white non-Hispanics are getting pissy when white Hispanics don't assimilate.

2017-02-16 22:11:58

Isn't Latino a White construct also? I mean the word itself is rooted in the Roman civilization. Usually the indigenous people of a "Latin-American" country are not counted as Latino. Usually it's the people who have been shaped by Spanish culture that identify as Latino. I just find it funny (or not so funny) that "Afro-Latinos" would readily reject Blackness on the grounds of rejecting Anglicanism, as you claim, but has less trouble rejecting the European influences that shaped their culture.

I say all this to say that some Afro-Latinos' rejection of blackness is not a rejection of European culture but rather an internalization of the "white is right" ideal whether they want to admit it or not.

2017-02-16 22:18:09

You are very ignorant of Hispanic culture, yet you make claims about it. Just ignorant.

I say Puerto Rican so people know what I am talking about, but I, and others, claim boricua. What does boricua mean? Boricua references the islands original name, which is Boriqueen. This is a Arawak/Taino name. It is a Native name before whites came to the island. So, yes, Spanish is a white construct; however, a lot people on the island call themselves boricua and not Puerto Rican, which is a white name. However, this references the Taino population. Puerto Rico has a high population of people from Spain which are not of Taino descent.

In other words, Spanish people in Puerto Rico identify with their white roots. Taino people in Puerto Rico identify with their Native roots. People mixed with Taino tend to be mixed with black so boricua also is a nod to that.

My profile says I am Boricua. Boricua references non-white inhabitants of Puerto Rico.

2017-02-16 22:49:30

So, is George's rule about Latinos not marrying Blacks true or false?

2017-02-16 22:53:41

For Mexicans, it is not false. For all Hispanics, yes, it is false. Mexicans tend to have more racists attitudes towards blacks which causes them to not get along with Puerto Ricans. The idea that Mexicans have tends to be that Puerto Ricans are less pure because they tend to be less white. Puerto Ricans, on the other hand, tend to have very strong relationships with blacks, boricua or otherwise, as do Dominicans though there is tension between Dominicans and Haitians.

2017-02-16 23:01:39

Do Hispanics as a whole care about the state of Black Americans

2017-02-16 23:07:17

Generally, the black ones do. The non-black ones don't understand you. They don't have negative racists attitudes about you. They just don't understand you. I know this for a fact, because as someone who is of African-American descent as well as Hispanic descent, in our group, they are always asking me about African-American culture. They're curious about some differences. One thing that tends to pop up are differences in family structures. Various ones that have dated African-Americans share their perspective.

The over arching sentiment is not really hatred nor is it really apathy. It is more or less they don't know much about you. But, to be frank, you don't know much about them, either, do you?

Are we discussing American-latinos or latinos outside of America because those have different implications? If we're talking about the latinos, particularly the Black ones who grew up in the US and they feel no connectedness to African Americans or unfamiliarity with them as you've claimed, then I've answered my own question.
 
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 21:51:45

Hispanics are racist af. They do not love black people. At all. Fuck hector and them.

2017-02-16 22:00:46

not all of them.....those who would be willing to contribute to our mutually beneficial causes still would be better than what we have now....some is better than none..what could it hurt being that the anglos are not moving fast to help improve situations..

2017-02-16 23:00:53

My father told me something I will never forget. He really admires Martin Luther King Jr. I asked him why, if he is not black. He said that the KKK would hang him, a Hispanic person, as fast as a black person. Never forgot that.

your dad is absolutely correct...MLK fought for the civil rights of all people not just Blacks...
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2017-02-16 20:19:49

i want them here, especially the Hispanic....they are the only way minorities can become the majority in USA...its already happening in some countries here in GA...GA is geared to turn Democrat over Republican....

2017-02-16 23:15:35

Bruh don't fall for that "we are all minorities" okey-doke bullshit Laughing Most Hispanics classify themselves as WHITE when they check those boxes.

i seen those boxes....when they check white...its also ask if they are Hispanic or Non-Hispanic...so they know they not anglo...
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