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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 18:28:42     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

2020-05-25 21:31:20

GIVE IT TIME YOU WILL BE A GRANDFATHER SOONER THAN LATER

2020-05-25 21:36:53

I would have to adopt a breeder for that.

2020-05-25 21:42:39

I thought your boys were breeders? Smile

2020-05-25 21:44:45

Foster boys, yes. Adopted boys, no.

2020-05-25 21:48:14

Oh ok. I forgot there is a distinction between the two. Have you seriously considered adoption?

2020-05-25 21:51:05

I adopted one 12 years ago. A second one probably soon.

2020-05-26 06:57:34

Ok nice! So there is the potential for you to be a grandpappy even if you don't adopt again..Smile

2020-05-26 13:52:23

My current adopted son is LGBTQIAA+. He ain't a breeder.

2020-05-26 17:38:55

What he can't adopt?

He doesn't like kids.
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Forum :  Topic : How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 14:30:29     Post subject: How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

2020-05-26 08:05:34

I remember when there was no Internet, never mind Youtube. lol. When I was in college Internet did not exist, there was just a small network of elite universities, and the military talking over the ARPANET, the predecessor of the Internet. I remember using dumb terminals at the university library, and visiting the computer room, where they used punch cards for data input, all this before 5.25" floppy disks.



Um old as shit!

2020-05-26 14:09:07

I remember the days before the internet too. Well at least the days before the internet was available to the mainstream. And on one of my earliest jobs, I worked in an environment with super computers where data was stored on cartridges that resembled 8-track tapes, and what looked like film reels. They weren't really using the punch cards by them, but there were still plenty of them around being used as scrap paper..Smile

Aw! You just a baby!



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Forum : Religion Topic : CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 14:26:02     Post subject: CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

2020-05-21 12:38:13

I think some churches refused to close, and probably some of the television evangelists just cleared the pews and told folks to watch on TV.

2020-05-21 14:42:04

TRAST HOW,WOULD YOU IF YOU COULD BREAK UP A CHURCH SIZE,FOR SOCIAL DISTANCES?

2020-05-26 12:26:11

I would just tell folks to keep six feet distance between non-already-cohabiting congregants, and once the church is full, there will be no more admitted. Basically it would be first-come, first served.

2020-05-26 13:29:04

AND WHAT ABOUT THE HANDICAP. WOULD YOU DENY THEM TURN

THEM AWAY

2020-05-26 13:34:40

Hell naw! Their seats are reserved up until the first 15 minutes of the service, after that, all bets are off. I gots to get my collection up.



Umma catch this fool after service. He gonna have to pay in dick.

2020-05-26 13:36:54

YOU KNOW THATS THE PREACHERS SON

HE SUCKS DICK BETTER THAN HIS FATHER AND SISTER

2020-05-26 13:37:50

He gon learn today!

2020-05-26 14:14:46

TAKE HIM BEHIND THE STAGE ITS CAMERAS SET UP

MOTION DETECTORS

No, can't be no evidence of what's about to go down. You come watch and join in, if you want though.

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Forum :  Topic : FBI Investigates Death of a Black Man in Minneapolis

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 14:23:12     Post subject: FBI Investigates Death of a Black Man in Minneapolis



A video that circulated on social media showed two officers by the man on the ground -- one of them had his knee over the back of the man's neck.

Minneapolis police officers involved in the death of a black man who they held down as he protested that he couldn't breathe have been placed on leave as the FBI looks into the incident, Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said Tuesday.

Officers responding to a forgery in progress Monday evening were initially told that a person later described as the suspect was sitting on a car and appeared to be under the influence, police said.
A pair of officers located the man, who was at that point inside the car and who police said "physically resisted" the officers after he was ordered to get out of the car. Officers handcuffed the man, who "appeared to be suffering medical distress," according to police. He died at a hospital a short time later, police said.
A video that circulated on social media showed two officers by the man on the ground -- one of them had his knee over the back of the man's neck. The video did not capture what led up to the arrest or what police described as the man resisting arrest.
"Please, I can't breathe," the man said, screaming for several minutes before he became silent.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/us/minneapolis-police-encounter-death-trnd/index.html
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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:55:05     Post subject: It's not about that but explain to the plots and the future.



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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:52:23     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

2020-05-25 21:31:20

GIVE IT TIME YOU WILL BE A GRANDFATHER SOONER THAN LATER

2020-05-25 21:36:53

I would have to adopt a breeder for that.

2020-05-25 21:42:39

I thought your boys were breeders? Smile

2020-05-25 21:44:45

Foster boys, yes. Adopted boys, no.

2020-05-25 21:48:14

Oh ok. I forgot there is a distinction between the two. Have you seriously considered adoption?

2020-05-25 21:51:05

I adopted one 12 years ago. A second one probably soon.

2020-05-26 06:57:34

Ok nice! So there is the potential for you to be a grandpappy even if you don't adopt again..Smile

My current adopted son is LGBTQIAA+. He ain't a breeder.
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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:49:21     Post subject: Offering to pay for sex

I lived in Holland for 21 years. Prostitution is legal there, but not cheap.



You cannot stop the world's oldest profession. All the hypocrites can do is suppress it.

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Forum :  Topic : WHATS YOUR POISON

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:39:28     Post subject:

2020-05-23 12:32:10

I mostly drink Icehouse beer, but if I drink liquor it’s either Baltimore Zoo or Vodka and Orange Juice

2020-05-24 06:31:18

AH YES ICE HOUSE BEER ITS LIGHT AND CRISP BUT HAS A PUNCH

TO IT IT IS BELIEVED TO BE THE FIRST DOMESTIC ICEHOUSE BEER

PLEASE ENJOY A PINT WHILE I MAKE YOUR DRINK

IM. POURING BULLIT WHISKY,BULLDOG GIN,DON JULIO TEQUILA AND

KIN VODKA THIS IS A STRONG DRINK 1oz OF EACH

YES I NORMALLY DONT SHAKE DRINK BUT WITH THIS DRINK THAT IS

A EXCEPTION

YES THAT IS SUGAR IM PLACING IN YOUR GLASS WITH A

STRAWBERRY INFUSED SELTZER

THEN TOPPED OFF WITH THE ARRAY SPIRITS

AH I SEE YOU FINISHED YOUR BEER HERE IS YOUR DRINK

IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING YOU

2020-05-24 14:30:54

You are an excellent bar keep, how much do I owe? And take this β€œtip”

2020-05-24 16:49:12

THANK YOU SIR NO NEED THE DRINKS ARE ALL PAID FOR AND THUS

ARE FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT AND SINCE IT WAS GIFTED AND NOT A

PURCHASE I CAN'T NOT TAKE ANY FORM OF A "GIFT" OR" TIP"

THANK AND ENJOY

2020-05-24 16:52:51

You gonna take that Tip.

2020-05-24 17:01:02

HELLO SIR I SEE BY YOUR RUDENESS THAT YOU MUST OF HAVE

FINISHED THE ENTIRE PICTURE BY YOURSELF

I'VE ORDER SOME NACHOS TO HELP ABSORB SOME OF THE ALCHOL

AND HERE PLEASE TAKE THIS BOTTLE OF WATER TO HYDRATE YOURSLEF

2020-05-26 13:04:59

I apologize, sir. Thank you for your benevolence!

2020-05-26 13:33:51

THAT'S IS QUITE O.K. IT HAPPENS SOMETIME

HERE I MADE A FANTASTIC PUNCH,FOR YOU ALL FRESH,SQUEEZED A

SIFTED FOR SEEDS AND PULP

IT IS POURED OVER AN ARRAY OF CITRUS INFUSED IN THE ICE

SO YOU WILL HAVE A POP OF FLAVOR THROUGHOUT THE DRINK

PLEASE ENJOY

You so kind! Umma cry!
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Forum : Religion Topic : CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:37:50     Post subject: CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

2020-05-21 12:38:13

I think some churches refused to close, and probably some of the television evangelists just cleared the pews and told folks to watch on TV.

2020-05-21 14:42:04

TRAST HOW,WOULD YOU IF YOU COULD BREAK UP A CHURCH SIZE,FOR SOCIAL DISTANCES?

2020-05-26 12:26:11

I would just tell folks to keep six feet distance between non-already-cohabiting congregants, and once the church is full, there will be no more admitted. Basically it would be first-come, first served.

2020-05-26 13:29:04

AND WHAT ABOUT THE HANDICAP. WOULD YOU DENY THEM TURN

THEM AWAY

2020-05-26 13:34:40

Hell naw! Their seats are reserved up until the first 15 minutes of the service, after that, all bets are off. I gots to get my collection up.



Umma catch this fool after service. He gonna have to pay in dick.

2020-05-26 13:36:54

YOU KNOW THATS THE PREACHERS SON

HE SUCKS DICK BETTER THAN HIS FATHER AND SISTER

He gon learn today!
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Forum :  Topic : Before this site shuts down

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:37:08     Post subject: Before this site shuts down

this is me. Look.



20 years ago.
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Forum : Religion Topic : CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:34:40     Post subject: CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

2020-05-21 12:38:13

I think some churches refused to close, and probably some of the television evangelists just cleared the pews and told folks to watch on TV.

2020-05-21 14:42:04

TRAST HOW,WOULD YOU IF YOU COULD BREAK UP A CHURCH SIZE,FOR SOCIAL DISTANCES?

2020-05-26 12:26:11

I would just tell folks to keep six feet distance between non-already-cohabiting congregants, and once the church is full, there will be no more admitted. Basically it would be first-come, first served.

2020-05-26 13:29:04

AND WHAT ABOUT THE HANDICAP. WOULD YOU DENY THEM TURN

THEM AWAY

Hell naw! Their seats are reserved up until the first 15 minutes of the service, after that, all bets are off. I gots to get my collection up.



Umma catch this fool after service. He gonna have to pay in dick.

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Forum :  Topic : How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:28:50     Post subject: How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

2020-05-26 08:05:34

I remember when there was no Internet, never mind Youtube. lol. When I was in college Internet did not exist, there was just a small network of elite universities, and the military talking over the ARPANET, the predecessor of the Internet. I remember using dumb terminals at the university library, and visiting the computer room, where they used punch cards for data input, all this before 5.25" floppy disks.



Um old as shit!

2020-05-26 13:18:20

Remember how many hours we spent in the damn library on campus ?

And the microfiche machines, researching articles ?

And the fucking Dewey Decimal System, which I still think was created as revenge by the nerd Librarians ?

Today, all the world's information is available at your computer.

College today would be a breeze !!

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Forum :  Topic : WHATS YOUR POISON

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:04:59     Post subject:

2020-05-23 12:32:10

I mostly drink Icehouse beer, but if I drink liquor it’s either Baltimore Zoo or Vodka and Orange Juice

2020-05-24 06:31:18

AH YES ICE HOUSE BEER ITS LIGHT AND CRISP BUT HAS A PUNCH

TO IT IT IS BELIEVED TO BE THE FIRST DOMESTIC ICEHOUSE BEER

PLEASE ENJOY A PINT WHILE I MAKE YOUR DRINK

IM. POURING BULLIT WHISKY,BULLDOG GIN,DON JULIO TEQUILA AND

KIN VODKA THIS IS A STRONG DRINK 1oz OF EACH

YES I NORMALLY DONT SHAKE DRINK BUT WITH THIS DRINK THAT IS

A EXCEPTION

YES THAT IS SUGAR IM PLACING IN YOUR GLASS WITH A

STRAWBERRY INFUSED SELTZER

THEN TOPPED OFF WITH THE ARRAY SPIRITS

AH I SEE YOU FINISHED YOUR BEER HERE IS YOUR DRINK

IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING YOU

2020-05-24 14:30:54

You are an excellent bar keep, how much do I owe? And take this β€œtip”

2020-05-24 16:49:12

THANK YOU SIR NO NEED THE DRINKS ARE ALL PAID FOR AND THUS

ARE FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT AND SINCE IT WAS GIFTED AND NOT A

PURCHASE I CAN'T NOT TAKE ANY FORM OF A "GIFT" OR" TIP"

THANK AND ENJOY

2020-05-24 16:52:51

You gonna take that Tip.

2020-05-24 17:01:02

HELLO SIR I SEE BY YOUR RUDENESS THAT YOU MUST OF HAVE

FINISHED THE ENTIRE PICTURE BY YOURSELF

I'VE ORDER SOME NACHOS TO HELP ABSORB SOME OF THE ALCHOL

AND HERE PLEASE TAKE THIS BOTTLE OF WATER TO HYDRATE YOURSLEF

I apologize, sir. Thank you for your benevolence!

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Forum :  Topic : How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 13:01:50     Post subject: How Janet's Nipple Spawned YouTube...πŸ˜‚

I remember when there was no Internet, never mind Youtube. lol. When I was in college Internet did not exist, there was just a small network of elite universities, and the military talking over the ARPANET, the predecessor of the Internet. I remember using dumb terminals at the university library, and visiting the computer room, where they used punch cards for data input, all this before 5.25" floppy disks.



Um old as shit!
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Forum :  Topic : Admin is not playing with

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:51:18     Post subject: Admin is not playing with

2020-05-25 13:52:40

Grams, please cover your snatch, and move on. What you got, nobody here wants.

2020-05-25 21:25:49

what about you? you think we wanna see your snatch or snatch like face?

Also banned-bitch, STFU! Get on your knees and start sucking.

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Forum :  Topic : Here's my twitter

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:47:28     Post subject: Here's my twitter

Twat!

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:45:56     Post subject: BGC closing down

2020-05-22 18:27:53

Oh my....

Did you take my advice and purchase those glasses? And where is my fee?

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:44:01     Post subject: I hacked me account back lololol

By the power vested in me.....




You may now bang the bride.



Butt post the live feed on BGCLive so we can all comment and give instructions.
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Forum :  Topic : When is the last day so o can reveal me?

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:40:16     Post subject: When is the last day so o can reveal me?

Today! Today is it! Show them knudes! Do it NOW! HURRY!

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Forum :  Topic : I don't know why I did, but I watched every episode .

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:32:06     Post subject: I don't know why I did, but I watched every episode .

Buffy was a sexually confused little hoe. Look.



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Forum :  Topic : LOL! You know you're a BGC Legend when......................

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:29:04     Post subject: LOL! You know you're a BGC Legend when......................

LOL! You know you're a BGC Legend when......................

Your booty hole itches, and the ENTIRE forum rushes over to scratch it.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-26 12:26:11     Post subject: CHURCHES WILL REOPEN

2020-05-21 12:38:13

I think some churches refused to close, and probably some of the television evangelists just cleared the pews and told folks to watch on TV.

2020-05-21 14:42:04

TRAST HOW,WOULD YOU IF YOU COULD BREAK UP A CHURCH SIZE,FOR SOCIAL DISTANCES?

I would just tell folks to keep six feet distance between non-already-cohabiting congregants, and once the church is full, there will be no more admitted. Basically it would be first-come, first served.

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Forum :  Topic : WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON HERE

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:44:34     Post subject: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON HERE

2020-05-25 14:24:40

I never think to check my page to see who visited. I don't read my private messages often either. I just like to crash the forum and stir up shit. I am a natural born shit-kicker.


2020-05-25 21:40:17

SO WHAT KIND OF DUDES SO YOU LIKE IN GENERAL

WHAT KIND LOOKS AT YOU N THE STREET

2020-05-25 21:55:44

I like brothers like on my beautiful dick thread.
http://bgclive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1183055

How about you?

2020-05-25 22:19:54

NOTHING YOU LIKE

DRED HEADS MUSCULAR DUDES

TALL. AND YOU ALREADY KNOW MASCULINE IS A MUST

NERDS FUCKING CONVERSATION BE GOOD

A SAPIOSEXUAL. ALSO

like this dude?



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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:41:11     Post subject: When is the last day so o can reveal me?

Right now! Post a full frontal. Hurry! Um horny.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:38:29     Post subject: Beverage Study - Concludes!

Cool!
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Forum :  Topic : US Billionaires Got $434 Billion Richer During the Pandemic

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:31:31     Post subject: US Billionaires Got $434 Billion Richer During the Pandemic

Rank Name Net worth (USD)
1 Jeff Bezos $145 billion
2 Bill Gates $106 billion
3 Warren Buffett $80.8 billion
4 Mark Zuckerberg $69.6 billion
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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:27:43     Post subject: Katya & Trixie Episode | How to get over a break-up

They are cross-dressers. Got it! Trying to relate to that. There is no C in LGBTQ...
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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:24:24     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:19:45     Post subject: Katya & Trixie Episode | How to get over a break-up

Um halfway through, and I don't like it. But um a finisher, so umma finish (maybe).

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 22:04:18     Post subject: LOL! You know you're a BGC Legend when......................

LOL! You know you're a BGC Legend when......................

you name yourself @the_bgc_legend

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:55:44     Post subject: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON HERE

2020-05-25 14:24:40

I never think to check my page to see who visited. I don't read my private messages often either. I just like to crash the forum and stir up shit. I am a natural born shit-kicker.


2020-05-25 21:40:17

SO WHAT KIND OF DUDES SO YOU LIKE IN GENERAL

WHAT KIND LOOKS AT YOU N THE STREET

I like brothers like on my beautiful dick thread.
http://bgclive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1183055

How about you?
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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:51:05     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

2020-05-25 21:31:20

GIVE IT TIME YOU WILL BE A GRANDFATHER SOONER THAN LATER

2020-05-25 21:36:53

I would have to adopt a breeder for that.

2020-05-25 21:42:39

I thought your boys were breeders? Smile

2020-05-25 21:44:45

Foster boys, yes. Adopted boys, no.

2020-05-25 21:48:14

Oh ok. I forgot there is a distinction between the two. Have you seriously considered adoption?

I adopted one 12 years ago. A second one probably soon.
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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:48:35     Post subject: WHATS YOUR POISON

2020-05-23 12:32:10

I HOPE ALL IS WELL AMD EVERYBODY IS ENJOYING THEMSELVES

Um bored. Umma need you to do a striptease for me, followed by a lap dance.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:44:45     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

2020-05-25 21:31:20

GIVE IT TIME YOU WILL BE A GRANDFATHER SOONER THAN LATER

2020-05-25 21:36:53

I would have to adopt a breeder for that.

2020-05-25 21:42:39

I thought your boys were breeders? Smile

Foster boys, yes. Adopted boys, no.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:43:30     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24

perverts....

Becky!

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:36:53     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread

2020-05-25 15:12:24



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

2020-05-25 21:31:20

GIVE IT TIME YOU WILL BE A GRANDFATHER SOONER THAN LATER

I would have to adopt a breeder for that.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:34:26     Post subject: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON HERE

I never think to check my page to see who visited. I don't read my private messages often either. I just like to crash the forum and stir up shit. I am a natural born shit-kicker.


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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:29:12     Post subject: Father and Stepfather appreciation thread



I want me a itty bitty one to raise from the ground up. Teens are alright, but I think I missed the most fun years.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:19:51     Post subject: Admin is not playing with

Grams, please cover your snatch, and move on. What you got, nobody here wants.

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PostPosted: 2020-05-25 21:17:10     Post subject: Admin, when is the official BGClive checkout date?



and I am not expecting any answer from Admin. I have asked him/her/them/it a half dozen questions and never got an answer yet.
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